"Fly-fishing is solitary, contemplative, misanthropic, scientific in some hands, poetic in others, and laced with conflicting aesthetic considerations. It's not even clear if catching fish is actually the point."

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Punk can be a mental ghetto.  People get into it and make all these rules and pretty soon they're worse than born again Christians and have stupid three hour conversation about things like, which band is a sellout and is straight edge cool or un-cool and it's just completely idiotic.  So punk has taught me the aesthetic of the outsider, which is great, but it's also taught me not to get involved in petty little cults.

— Jesse Michaels