"The only absolutely and unapproachably heroic element in the soldier's work seems to be-that he is paid little for it-and regularly."

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In underground music, there seems to be this real inability for people to express themselves in any kind of heroic or mythological way. There's this idea that we're all normal joes, and that creating a persona onstage or having schtick is somehow false and misleading and evil.

— Ian Svenonius