"When people don't want 'em, when they profit from the division, however, be it politically or financially, that's when I abhor it."

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I just want to carry on the way we [ Joy Division] are, I think. Basically, we want to play and enjoy what we like playing. I think when we stop doing that I think, well, that will be the time to pack it in. That'll be the end.

— Ian Curtis