"As an artist your trajectory just has to keep going up. the thing that subverts your next body of work is the work you've taken before."

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Growing up with my dad, whenever I wanted to try something, he would let me try it but he wouldn't let me give up on it. If soccer was too tough and I said, 'I'm going to quit,' he'd be like, 'No, you're going to try everything and keep going at it'.

— Carlos Pena, Jr.