"We are only geometricians of matter; the Greeks were, first of all, geometricians in the apprenticeship to virtue."

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The time between Bachelor's degree and a PhD, the median time is over 11 years. So then you're still only on a tenure ladder, you're not tenured. So it generally takes 6 to 8 years after that to get tenure. So that's a very long period of what's essentially apprenticeship, of insecurity.

— Louis Menand